Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/13/2013 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 180 MILITARY YOUTH ACADEMY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 180 Out of Committee
+ HCR 6 EST. LEG. TASK FORCE ON UNMANNED AIRCRAFT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHCR 6(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
CS FOR HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 6(EDT)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Recognizing  the Alaska  Center  for Unmanned  Aircraft                                                                    
     Systems  Integration   at  the  University   of  Alaska                                                                    
     Fairbanks  as a  national leader  in unmanned  aircraft                                                                    
     research and development; and relating  to a Task Force                                                                    
     on Unmanned Aircraft Systems.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:19:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  MOVED  to   ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for HCR  6,  Work  Draft 28-LS0655\P,  (4/12/13,                                                                    
Gardner) as a working document.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:20:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Fairclough   OBJECTED   for  the   purpose   of                                                                    
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE MARASIGAN,  STAFF, SENATOR KEVIN  MEYER, discussed                                                                    
the changes  in the  current bill. She  stated that  the two                                                                    
major  changes could  be  found  on Pages  3  and  4 of  the                                                                    
legislation. She explained  that on Page 3, line  11, the 15                                                                    
person task force was changed to  a 7 person task force. She                                                                    
said that Page 4 reflected  that the termination date of the                                                                    
committee had been moved to July 1, 2014.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson queried the ultimate goal of the taskforce.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Marasigan deferred the question to the bill sponsor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson understood that the  CS had changed the number                                                                    
of people  on the  taskforce and  the termination  date, but                                                                    
had not altered the original purpose of the taskforce.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Marasigan replied in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough WITHDREW  her OBJECTION.  There being                                                                    
NO further OBJECTION, Work Draft 28-LS0655\P was ADOPTED.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:22:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHELLEY  HUGHES,   appreciated  the  changes                                                                    
proposed in the CS. She  said that the legislative taskforce                                                                    
would  be responsible  for providing  policy recommendations                                                                    
for  the   Alaska  Center  for  Unmanned   Aircraft  Systems                                                                    
Integration. She said that  with emerging technology certain                                                                    
laws had to be revisited in  order to ensure that the safety                                                                    
and privacy  of Alaskans.  She stated that  constituents had                                                                    
expressed  concern about  the use  of  military drones.  She                                                                    
relayed that  she had researched  drones and  had discovered                                                                    
that the technology could be  used for good; she believed it                                                                    
was important to  embrace the technology for  the purpose of                                                                    
doing good. She  thought that the aircraft could  be used to                                                                    
save lives and  cited an instance where a drone  was used to                                                                    
locate a  downed aircraft  near Bethel.  She stated  that as                                                                    
the   unmanned  aircraft   were  integrated   into  national                                                                    
airspace the  field would grow  from 70,000 to  100,000 jobs                                                                    
nationwide  in  the  next three  years.  She  stressed  that                                                                    
because Alaska was go far ahead  in this field than the rest                                                                    
of the country,  the economic rewards to the  state could be                                                                    
substantial.  She  said  that the  taskforce  would  examine                                                                    
privacy concerns as  well as the application and  use of the                                                                    
unmanned  aircraft and  potential unmanned  aircraft use  in                                                                    
the private sector.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:26:03 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:26:52 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough discussed the fiscal note.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  pointed out  to  the  committee that  the                                                                    
fiscal note still reflected a 13 member taskforce.                                                                              
Vice-Chair Fairclough noted that  fiscal note 2 had replaced                                                                    
fiscal note 1.  She stated that there had  been concern that                                                                    
the committee would cost money;  the legislation stated that                                                                    
taskforce members would be allowed  travel and per diem. She                                                                    
understood  that   the  costs  would  be   absorbed  and  no                                                                    
additional funds would be needed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Shelly Hughes agreed.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough OPENED public testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:28:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE COLLIGAN,  E-TERRA, LLC, MAT-SU  (via teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in  support  of  HCR  6.  He  believed  that  the                                                                    
technology would revolutionize data  gathering. He said that                                                                    
the  evolution of  the industry  should  be integrated  into                                                                    
Alaska  law in  order to  craft meaningful  legislation that                                                                    
protected the public.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:33:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  queried the maximum altitude  that the drones                                                                    
could reach.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Colligan replied that the  ceiling was restricted at 400                                                                    
feet. He added  that certain aircraft had a  weight limit as                                                                    
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:35:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RO   BAILEY,   UNIVERSITY    OF   ALASKA,   ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  explained  that  the  range  and  altitude                                                                    
consult for  unmanned aircraft  system was  the same  as any                                                                    
manned  aircraft system.  She said  that the  ones that  the                                                                    
university  had  been  working   with  were  generally  much                                                                    
smaller,  less than  55 pounds,  but capable  of significant                                                                    
altitudes. She stated  that the drones used  by the military                                                                    
could go up  to an excess of 60,000 feet.  She stressed that                                                                    
no  unmanned  aircraft  system   could  enter  the  national                                                                    
airspace  system  without  extensive study  by  the  Federal                                                                    
Aviation  Administration (FAA).  She  said  that test  sites                                                                    
were  designed  to  completely  develop  the  processes  and                                                                    
procedures to  ensure that manned  aviation was safe  at all                                                                    
times when  the operation  of unmanned aircraft  systems was                                                                    
expanded beyond  public entities  to private  and commercial                                                                    
entities.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered about the  plans for dealing with out                                                                    
of control drones.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bailey replied  that  jam  proof communication  systems                                                                    
were being  discussed to reduce  the probability of  a drone                                                                    
being taken over. She added  that the aircraft would undergo                                                                    
significant testing  and extensive, well  protected software                                                                    
would be used in the  drone, which would cause the autopilot                                                                    
to  make specific  and known  actions. She  shared that  the                                                                    
drones  would  ultimately  have  a  system  onboard  with  a                                                                    
separate and secure communication  like that would allow the                                                                    
drone to be forcibly crashed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:41:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  assumed that the taskforce  would address the                                                                    
issue   of   drones    colliding   with   manned   aircraft.                                                                    
Representative Hughes replied in the affirmative.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough returned the gavel to Senator Meyer.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:43:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough   MOVED  to  REPORT  HCR   6  out  of                                                                    
committee with individual  recommendations and a forthcoming                                                                    
amended fiscal note.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHCR  6(FIN) was REPORTED  out of committee with  a "do                                                                    
pass"  recommendation and  with a  new indeterminate  fiscal                                                                    
note from the Legislature.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer discussed housekeeping.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:44:58 AM                                                                                                                    

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